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Post by Denithar on Oct 16, 2006 22:32:50 GMT -5
John, in a completely joking manner, said "curses Allah". Personally, I have no problem with this. However, I made him delete it because I thought it might offend other members. Does this language bother the guild, or should we not limit free speech? Thoughts can be posted.
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Post by eakyra on Oct 16, 2006 22:49:24 GMT -5
I believe that if it is used in a joking manner then there shouldn't be a problem. However, I can see both sides. I dont want anyone offended, but its up to the people of the guild.
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Post by Denithar on Oct 16, 2006 22:55:53 GMT -5
I shall also vote yes. I shall feel rather stupid if nobody is bothered by it and I made John delete it. But no matter. At least I did something stupid in the cause of peace and friendliness.  |
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Post by eakyra on Oct 16, 2006 23:03:02 GMT -5
You really ought to help me save the world.
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Post by Denithar on Oct 16, 2006 23:15:52 GMT -5
That would be absolutely beautiful! I would count it an incredible honor to help you save the world.
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Post by eakyra on Oct 17, 2006 2:19:39 GMT -5
Great! We will start next year on the 8th of January. It will be a perfect way to kick off my birthday. ;D
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Post by Emily on Oct 17, 2006 15:15:39 GMT -5
*nods and raises hand*
I'LL HELP EAKY! If. you let me of course ;D
*ouch. Headache.*
Anyway, I'm unsure... what exactly happened with John. And the language thingy.
I can understand that if certain people are strong to a certain faith, they may take it in the complete wrong way, and be offended, but if rational, I don't think it matters all too much...
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Post by Brokenhearts on Oct 17, 2006 17:20:26 GMT -5
i dnt think i cn vote on this. i already dnt like the guy as it is- bt i think that is taking it WAAAAAY too far. i wnt vote- bt thts wat i think. wat is more is that it is racisum (i no they dnt have an official word 4 it- so i'll borrow tht 1), something a cannot and will nt stand 4.
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Post by Brokenhearts on Oct 17, 2006 17:49:59 GMT -5
i wud also like 2 add that no matter wat any1 sez, racist, prejudice, joking or any other manner- no matter wat they say, every1 has 2 deal with the consquences. and i'm sorry 2 say tht after havin 2 put up with 3 yrs of racial and religious prejudice- i will not STAND for it in a place that i consider a sanctuary. this is not a warning, or a threat- it's the truth. keep ur prejudices 2 ur self- deal with it on ur own, dnt bring it here.
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Post by Denithar on Oct 17, 2006 19:16:27 GMT -5
*scratches head* then why didn't you vote in the poll? I already told John that nobody cared enough about what he said to vote against his words.
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Post by eakyra on Oct 18, 2006 0:46:33 GMT -5
Thank you Den. Broky, he made this thread so people would vote in the poll and so we could get opinions. So next time, vote.
He isnt being racist towards you. IT WAS A FREAKING JOKE! He meant no harm in it. And im sure that if he was aware of how strongly you felt about it, he wouldnt have done it. HELL! He deleted it the first time he said it when someone suggested it was wrong! Did you even take the time to read that?! Obviously he does care. And then I thought that you were offering a truce, that kinda assumes that you DO or are TRYING to like the guy. I think you just took something the wrong way and are now taking it out on him. Your being very irrational. I love you as a friend very much, but this has gone way to far. Alot of people have a hard time with racial prejudice, EVERYONE DOES! Your making it like your the only one anyone picks on. I thought you were better than that.
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Post by Brokenhearts on Oct 18, 2006 2:23:23 GMT -5
if thts wat i thort i'd say it. the point isn't that ppl r pickin on me, hell, i dnt care any more. am used 2 it. it's jst tht he sed it- ppl pay for the consequeces. tho i didn't no about the deleteing thing. bt rite am still 2 angry 2 even reconsider anythin i sed. and i'm jst the sort of person hu tends to shopve everythin she sez and thinks in2 the light. every1 mite have 2 put up with it- nt everyone sez wat they think about it.
and no im nt better than tht- i'm 15 and im immature and im oppinionated. im nt better than tht, some1 sez somethin like tht- i make a big deal about it.
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Post by Denithar on Oct 18, 2006 9:02:15 GMT -5
Broky, we understand that you're angry. But you didn't even vote in the poll. I actually sent John a personal apology from me! I told him that I was wrong and no one cared about what he said, because nobody voted against his words. So right now you're willing to take action in the wrong way, but not willing to let a mod address the issue.
What do you mean "some1 sez somethin like tht- i make a big deal about it"? You just said that you didn't care personally about the words. Or "ppl pay for the consequeces." Do you mean to say that you're going to be the one to make him pay? That's no way to live, it will only make your life a lot harder. Like the Muhammad cartoon, meant as a joke, and the Muslims replied by burning and killing. Broky, this is the way the world is. Try not to make it worse, okay?
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Post by Brokenhearts on Oct 18, 2006 9:07:51 GMT -5
i cnt promise nt 2- bt how cn i make it any worse if the world is like tht anyway? if the world has such sic jokes in it, nt jst about muslims, it's across the board! if such jokes exists- then this is some sick world.
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Post by Emily on Oct 18, 2006 11:05:40 GMT -5
*sighs* Look, I'm not turning this into a debate or an argument Broky, I love you to bits, but you aren't the only one. It was meant as a joke. And it was nothing compared to what some people have to go through.
Like the muslims who had their house covered in grafitti calling them terrorists. People are sick, and prejudical
A couple of years ago, I made the fatal mistake of telling my friends that I was a Wiccan. Everyone didn't have a clue of what the hell I was on about, and kicked up a huge fuss. MY FRIENDS TURNED AGAINST ME. Dude, I had my whole freaking year hating me, and making snide and bitchy comments about what I believed in. I got called Wicked Witch, Mrs Harry Potter, Hermione, Demon, Satanist, Satan's slut. Jeez, you name it. The boys ripped the piss out of me, and only my true friends stuck close to me.
And I discovered that out of the, lets say 50 people I got on with, only 5 were true. And that stings, especially when it's about religion.
And I chickened out, and pretending I wasn't a practiser anymore, everything smoothed over, and suddenly I have my so called 50 odd friends back.
Which is why I'm technically not, because I hadn't stuck to my faith.
It's a joke Broky, made by people you are now personally taking prejudices against a comment which went awry and offended you.
Ok, sorry for my speech, but I get terribly worked up when people start getting angry over something which isn't rational.
We all love you to bits Broky, just calm, y'know?
Em xxxxx
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