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Post by Denithar on Sept 24, 2006 10:19:57 GMT -5
This is to be a debate on whether Pirates or Ninjas are the coolest/kick the other's butt. The judge (me I'm guessing) will be looking for entertaining yet valid arguments.
Eakyra is a Ninja, and Skittlestiger is a Pirate. They will post in rounds. They are not allowed to double post. If anyone else wishes to post in the debate, they first need to ask permission by sending me a message.
Eakrya and Skittles, either of you can post first. Your first post should introduce yourself, and why you think Pirates/Ninjas are better.
Any suggestions are welcomed. If both want to debate in a different style you are totally allowed to change it.
5 days between opponents posting, if there is no response in 5 days the contest is over.
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Post by skittlestiger on Sept 29, 2006 15:41:33 GMT -5
okay I shall start! (sorry I'm late everyone) Hi, I'm skittlestiger, I enjoy eating french fries and being obnoxious!
In the popular modern imagination, pirates of the classical period were rebellious, clever teams who operated outside the restricting bureaucracy of modern life. Which I totally agree with, pirate lived, had fun, died young. While NINJA lived quiet lives of espionage and deceit, bah, I'd rather party ANY day!
-Not to mention one piece (a pirate manga) has far outsold poor naruto in japan -sob-
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Post by eakyra on Sept 30, 2006 0:17:37 GMT -5
Hello Denithar, my name is Eakyra "The Saint" Nightingale. My purpose here today is to demonstrate and ultimately proove why Ninja's pwn! Pirates.
To start I will give a brief overview of the History and background of the Ninja.
The Ninja, derived from the form of martial arts called Ninjutsu, are comprimised of mastering the art of stealth and shadow. But this is not all that their training focuses apon. A Ninja must be able to use his surroundings for all purposes, become master's of disguise, silent movement, and escape. Not only must a Ninja master these skills, they must have a high endurance rate and be able to easily cover their tracks so as not to get noticed. This is only a sample of what the early Ninja's were capable of, and no doubt they are still capable today of such feats. Perhaps even the modern day Ninjutsu masters have aquired new skills, such as computer hacking skills.
If we look back into the history of the Ninja, you will find that it is sparce and perhaps even secretive. The art of Ninjutsu was thought to be created during the early years of feudal Japan. Being greatly outnumbered by Samurai, the people of the mountain created the practice for the purpose of protection through stealth and swift physical force. Because of these unorthodox tactics and shere invincibility, the Ninja were often thought of as assasins. Although this does ring true for a number of Ninja, this was not always the case. Most Ninja only used their capabilities when threatend. Making them a very honorable clan.
Now that I have given you a brief introduction to the life and history of a Ninja. I will begin rebuttle against Skittles introduction.
First I would like to point out the inproper introduction of the defendent (Pirates). Giving the short description of what the "popular belief/imagination" the audiance has no way to know who and what Pirates exactly were. Skittles mentions that the pirates were rebellious, clever treams. This could be a variety of things from, a group of young boys not allowing girls into their club, or the American goverment and teenagers.
Secondly I would like to point out the briefity of his statement. There is no justifiable information to really debate apon.
Taking what little of Skittlestiggers poor Ninja bashing information I have, I will show how the Ninja are far more superior than that of the Pirate.
He mentions that the pirates were rebellious, and clever teams. The Pirates were not only dumb and unsoffisticated, but they were only as half rebellious as myth claims them to be. The tactics of a Pirate consist of gathering a team of drunken fools and boarding them upon a ship. Then this crew makes it way to a town or outpost that is easily overtaken, and then proceeds to "cleverly" pillage. There is no flow or mysterious quality in the way the Pirates steal from the richer (and the poorer). They get their guns/knifes/swords and stab everyone in the eye. Then after laughing and having a few more pints, they load of the goods they "rebelliously" stole and load it unto their ship. The travel period to their next destination point is filled with blurred vision and distastefull music. Now the Pirates will either hide the treasure so that no one else will find it, or split it up and go and life their lifes law abbiding citizens. Sounds pretty rebellious to me.
The Ninja however, contain some sort of dignified clevernous and rebellion. It is no question that they operated out of the restricting bureaucracy of modern life, so rebellion isnt even a real factor to be debated on the Ninja's side. They had to in order to survive. By developing and honing precise and deathly skills, the Ninja cleaverly managed to strick fear into the hearts of many by using obscure tactics not normally expected by society. They were able to come apon their victim and within seconds have his body laying on the ground wondering what the hell just happend. And as you can tell, wailing a sword around and shooting wildly at goverment officials and even civilians is not only un-clever, its just plain embarrasing. Theres no character or origionallity to the Pirate tactics.
Skittles mentions that the Pirates "lived, had fun, died young," and then goes on to say he would rather party anyday then live a life of deciet. The fact is already clearly pointed out by Skittles that, the pirates died young, and therefor barely lived any sort of real life at all. And while the Pirates spent their days and nights drinking and swooning prostitutes to sleep with them (which I can only imagine how the hell they got them drunk enough), the Ninja were fighting for survival and the protection of their families. Yes, some Ninja lived a life that consisted of Murder for hire, theft, and lies. But even as you can see here, these Ninja LIVED a longer life because they watched out for their own asses. No matter what the cost. It is true that they lived in seclusion; but this really shows how smart they were not to go parading their names about and making them wanted in every port and having their lives constantly at risk.
I will now open for a rebuttle against the Ninja, if its even needed. Thank you.
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Post by Denithar on Sept 30, 2006 8:50:25 GMT -5
Very nice Eakyra! I hope the pirates can muster a good reply. It's your turn Skittles. Good luck beating that...
New rule:
If there are no new posts for 5 days then the person I judge is doing the best in the contest will win.
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Post by eakyra on Oct 5, 2006 13:06:26 GMT -5
Just wanted to mention that its been 5 days...
*is super excited* ;D
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Post by Denithar on Oct 5, 2006 18:09:21 GMT -5
*Ponders the two posts for a long time*  I think this decision was rather too easy guys. I hope we can have some better debates. Eakyra is the winner! Very good piece, girly.  |
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Post by eakyra on Oct 5, 2006 23:16:01 GMT -5
*is completely and utterly shocked* *Miss America plays with Miss DebateQueen as the substitute for words* Me? Really? I mean... skittles deserved this so much more... oh who am I kidding... I WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do really wish this had been a better debate. It could have been really fun.  Angie... prizes? |
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