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Post by Denithar on Nov 18, 2006 14:38:57 GMT -5
Do you illegally download music and why or why not? Open debate, anyone is allowed to post. There will be no winner of this debate, because of its nature.
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Post by Gil Alexander on Nov 18, 2006 14:48:29 GMT -5
I don't illegally download music. It's exactly like stealing. The music was meant to be bought, not taken on a file sharing program. Even though the musicians might not notice it, it's still taking money away from them that should be theirs, no matter how small amount that may be. Even though the musician gets only a small fraction of the profit, it's still stealing from the other companies involved.
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Post by johnsapphire on Nov 18, 2006 15:45:31 GMT -5
They're rich enough as it is.
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Post by Denithar on Nov 18, 2006 16:50:27 GMT -5
John, are you saying that if someone is richer it gives the poorer the right to steal some of their wealth to even things out?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2006 17:13:27 GMT -5
the music business massively overcharges for CD's. Listen to "Download this song" by MC Lars. Sums up my opinion completely! Bout time we got music for free.... and besides its not actually free. we pay for broadband. if the music companies complain so much, take it up with the internet providers!
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Post by Emily on Nov 18, 2006 17:52:11 GMT -5
I don't illegally download music. Purely, and perhaps selfishly one might say, but for the fear of being sued if getting caught.
Fair point, that millions do, but also fair point that a girl from my current school lost her house, practically most of her family's wealth and... a lot more besides, because people are now cracking down on illegally downloaded music.
I'm frightened of my family having to carry the burden of what might happen if I did....
So yeah. I'm interested to find out on what other people think.
But I do agree - music is heavily overcharged.
To buy 100 individual songs for my ipod would cost me £80.
ok. 1000 songs to fill 1 thirtieth of my ipod and it would cost me £800.
Ouch.
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Post by johnsapphire on Nov 18, 2006 19:09:43 GMT -5
I'm not saying it is right or wrong. I don't do it [download music] personally, because I like having my personal pick over the orchestra and conductor, plus I can afford buying virtually any music for which I have a desire (take that, you pesky end-of-sentence prepositions!). That's not to say that I don't burn CDs that I've bought for friends, but that isn't exactly the subject of this debate, now is it?
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Post by Chris on Nov 19, 2006 19:55:57 GMT -5
For the most part, I'm a pretty moral person, in my opinion anyway. But I live in a place where the people hanker for objectifying rap music, so much so that it's next to impossible to go to a store and find a KT Tunstall or a Teddy Geiger CD, but if I want to hear how 50 Cent 'lets you lick the lollipop' I can get it in German. Ok, I'm exaggerating a little, but it's not that far from the truth. I don't have a credit card, and even if I did iTunes does not support my country yet. I want my music, I want it now, and I see no other alternative than to get it through my next friend. I.E. Limewire.
I know people consider it theft, but they are being unreasonable. I see it the same way as I borrowed a CD from someone and put the song on my computer. What's the difference from borrowing it from a friend when I download it from someone who has a copy of the song I want, especially if I can't do so by buying CDs from the internet or downloading legally from iTunes?
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Post by Emily on Nov 20, 2006 12:04:10 GMT -5
I see it the same way as I borrowed a CD from someone and put the song on my computer. What's the difference from borrowing it from a friend when I download it from someone who has a copy of the song I want, especially if I can't do so by buying CDs from the internet or downloading legally from iTunes? That, Pesto, is actually a very good point. I haven't personally considered this, as I frequently nab cds I want from my friends, upload them to iTunes and then return the CD and they - Hey! Presto! My iPod now officially has 11 songs that would have cost me £10 from HMV. Nice. (mm.... Lindt chocolate, the melt in the middle things are soooo... nice ;D) Back onto topic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2006 15:04:15 GMT -5
good point pesto. there really is little difference. well i suppose you could argue that the friend payed for it in the 1st place, but sum1 must have paid for it 2 put it on limewire/morpheus/emule etc.
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Post by johnsapphire on Nov 20, 2006 16:23:03 GMT -5
Yes, "sum1" would have to have paid for it. I think there are few individuals in our society today that have not shared music, and all of this sharing is quite illegal. I say we should focus on those idiotic catholics that preached against contraception in Africa and gave 10 million people AIDS.
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Post by Angie on Nov 26, 2006 15:09:40 GMT -5
I know people consider it theft, but they are being unreasonable. I see it the same way as I borrowed a CD from someone and put the song on my computer. What's the difference from borrowing it from a friend when I download it from someone who has a copy of the song I want, especially if I can't do so by buying CDs from the internet or downloading legally from iTunes? Actually, I believe that's illegal too, dear. . .
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Post by johnsapphire on Nov 29, 2006 18:44:21 GMT -5
It's one of those things that is illegal, yet is done frequently.
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Post by Angie on Nov 29, 2006 19:37:24 GMT -5
Of course, but Pesto was implying that it was legal.
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Post by johnsapphire on Nov 29, 2006 21:03:04 GMT -5
Pesto is a perplexing person.
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