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Post by eakyra on Oct 13, 2006 23:05:08 GMT -5
^ that is what I was thinking you wanted from me. Which is why I said I wasnt going to post right away.
I am a dynamic meditator. Thats the closest thing I can come to what you were looking for.
I dont believe firmly in any one religion. My religious, although I cringe at the mere word religion, views stem from all matters of the worlds beliefs. "Take the Best, and Leave the Rest." Thats what I go by. If it makes sense to me and pulls at my soul (you know the feeling when you truely believe something) then I adapt it. I guess a few things I could pin point would be:
1. I believe God is not what Christianity makes him out to be. I believe "he" is not even a "he". More of a divine flow of energy that courses through our body's and the earth. This flow has both Male and Female energy's. This is where some of my Wiccan beliefs begin to show. Although not quite like you make it too be.
2. I believe in Reincarnation. I believe that once you die, your soul goes into the Astral plane (a middle ground) and waits until its time to be born again into earth. This cycle continues until you reach pure enlightenment.
3. I believe in the powers of meditation and prayer. (Mountain Institute school of meditation)
Im really not going to go much further because I dont think its necessary and it gets complicated and I've never been able to properly explain myself.
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Post by Denithar on Oct 13, 2006 23:14:27 GMT -5
I find it interesting that your foremost conviction is that my belief is wrong.
I do not believe that the Bible is completely correct. However, it is the oldest and most reliable book from that time. Many of it's statements have been proven correct by archeology, or fit with other documents from those time periods. You don't have to except it as true, but then you can hardly believe any other ancient source.
On the second point, Christianity has not stayed the same as you seem to think. And no, if a Christian of that age spoke to me on religion, we would agree on almost nothing. I am however a bad example, as my fellow Christians have issues with me and I with them, so I cannot accurately defend the average Christian belief system.
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Post by eakyra on Oct 13, 2006 23:17:35 GMT -5
I believe in many things from Christianity and the bible. I cannot say for a fact that the bible is real or was just a big hoax, but I choose to believe that its real while not all the stories may be. I dont believe that Jesus was the son of God, but rather one of the greatest masters/healers/guru's of all time. Very simular to Buddha.
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Post by johnsapphire on Oct 13, 2006 23:21:46 GMT -5
Exactly what was reliable? They are testimony from people I do not know the history of recounting events that happened over ten years before they sat down and wrote about them (scientific fact). If you try to tell me that Jusus was born of a virgin, you violate scientific fact and must bring in a god the existance of which you can only prove through blips in an otherwise unblemished scientific record.
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Post by eakyra on Oct 13, 2006 23:23:43 GMT -5
Everyone has their own beliefs. I just want everyone to realize that and respect it.
Everyone.
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Post by Denithar on Oct 13, 2006 23:38:51 GMT -5
John, it is reliable because provable facts from it have been proven. Such as cities thought not to exist being found. And it being the closest to the original of any work from that time. If you think the scientific record is unblemished then you are not as brilliant as I thought. And Jesus is spelled with only one "U". But please explain what you believe, and then perhaps I can understand better. Or do you not know what happened in the beginning, only what you don't believe? (Which is perfectly fine with me if you do.)
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Post by eakyra on Oct 13, 2006 23:41:15 GMT -5
I cant even be sure what happend in the beginning. Like I said, I dont believe everything in the bible.
I know you ment that for John, but...
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Post by Denithar on Oct 13, 2006 23:46:03 GMT -5
Eakyra, I KNOW that I don't know what happened in the beginning. But John is rather more sure of himself that I am, so I thought he might know the answer. Anytime Girly.
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Post by eakyra on Oct 13, 2006 23:47:07 GMT -5
Your going to scare him off you know that? I dont know how I do that to people. I just do.
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Post by Denithar on Oct 13, 2006 23:48:58 GMT -5
Post moddied.
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Post by johnsapphire on Oct 13, 2006 23:49:46 GMT -5
I should be delighted to explain. I have come to the conclusion that it is impossible to describe a beginning without making reference to a divine force. As I have made it quite clear I do not believe in such a being, it follows that I do not believe in a beginning. What I am describing has been coined "Circular Time" by the scientific community. Circular Time dictates that the universe never began and will never end, hence "circular". We believe that the universe has always existed and has a 'big bang' every 50 billion years or so. The universe expands, then the 'Blue Shift' occurs, during which the universe begins to shrink, and sooner or later we have another big bang. Astrophysicists around the world consider this a viable theory. By the way, in science, a theory is a hypothesis that has been tested to the point of being regarded as truth. 'Theory' being used as a possible explanation is an informal usage.
JS
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Post by eakyra on Oct 13, 2006 23:51:59 GMT -5
I find that very interesting. I think I may look into it a bit more.
And Den, you didnt have to modify it. But o'well. ;D
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Post by johnsapphire on Oct 13, 2006 23:55:39 GMT -5
VIVA VERDI
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Post by eakyra on Oct 14, 2006 2:50:10 GMT -5
The opera composer?
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Oct 14, 2006 14:08:30 GMT -5
I am nondenominational Christian. ...views stem from all matters of the worlds beliefs. "Take the Best, and Leave the Rest." Thats what I go by. If it makes sense to me and pulls at my soul (you know the feeling when you truely believe something) then I adapt it. .. I had a couple fascinating conversations along this vein in school yesterday...yours is a common opinion (lately?). Why, Ee-kay-ra, do you believe that you, or any human, can trust their independant spiritual judgement or their opinion on what is "best"? Subjective truth is a historically debated theory--Say there are two people who believe in two different pieces of a religion. Both have decided for themselves that these are true. What, then, is really true? I mean without human intervention, without opinion--does TRUE exist? I believe that it does and that no matter what an individual or a group of humans thinks then the cosmic/spiritual reality is one single way and some people have to be irrevocably wrong. Comments?
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